What's it like to grow up as a Jew in an Israeli settlement in the occupied territory of Palestine. 'Natural Born Settlers' is an insightful short documentary.
The settlers are brainwashed to believe in their own superiority and to hate the native people of the land they have stolen. Tel Aviv of course was also stolen from the Palestinians as was everything in what has been called Israel since 1947. One presumes since the Israelis have never made reparation or paid compensation that they have no legal right to any of it.
Interesting and a reminder of the humanity of all people which is a good thing. I did think a few of them did not seem very bright but perhaps they have high rates of intermarriage which would not be surprising. A couple seemed fairly reasonable but also a demonstration of how humans can separate and deny realities for the sake of comfort. I suppose if you are brainwashed from birth to believe certain things most will just believe and never question and quickly repress any doubt. Having worked with and for Israelis and been there, I have personally experienced such capacity. Not particular to Israelis of course but common in all fundamentalist religion and most movements which, by their nature and their necessity incline to cult form.
Most people aren't intelligent, it's us overthinkers who are the aberration. Mass stupidity is possible without intermarriage. I grew up during Apartheid with the luxury of not having been an adult during it.
Yes, agree but I did not mean mass stupidity. The way people look and talk can indicate lower intelligence and that is what I was noting. As they say, demonstrating 'they are not the sharpest knife in the block.'
Then again I imagine any cult environment can do that.
We are doomed to misunderstand each other. Must be astrological :)
I was just pointing out that mass stupidity is my main concern, bigger than the fact that religious groups will have less diversity than atheists.
Several Jewish comedies are among my favourites, likely assisted by the claustrophobia of their community e.g., 'Shiva Baby' and 'The Women's Balcony'.
The medium is cryptic and misunderstandings are a given. However, I am quite literal in my approach and perhaps you are also. I don't think we misunderstand each other as much as over-think as you said at one point.
I understood what you were saying and was simply clarifying how I saw it. I see it as conversation and exploring an issue. And it might be astrological although my sense, could be wrong, was that you were having a bit of a jibe given your response to my mention of astrology in the past.
I have done a lot of research into Judaism and particularly Kabbalah. I have no aversion to things Jewish at all. Humour is a very particular thing and I can't say I relate particularly to Jewish humour as it always seems very contrived and not as sharp-witted as the best humour. More slapstick than savage wit.
As to mass stupidity, I would see it more as collective psychosis, a version of mass hysteria. Are we dumbed down in this age? Now that is another very complex topic.
The settlers are brainwashed to believe in their own superiority and to hate the native people of the land they have stolen. Tel Aviv of course was also stolen from the Palestinians as was everything in what has been called Israel since 1947. One presumes since the Israelis have never made reparation or paid compensation that they have no legal right to any of it.
We know they are, but this is still well worth your time watching.
I was not implying it was not worth watching.
I know that :)
Interesting and a reminder of the humanity of all people which is a good thing. I did think a few of them did not seem very bright but perhaps they have high rates of intermarriage which would not be surprising. A couple seemed fairly reasonable but also a demonstration of how humans can separate and deny realities for the sake of comfort. I suppose if you are brainwashed from birth to believe certain things most will just believe and never question and quickly repress any doubt. Having worked with and for Israelis and been there, I have personally experienced such capacity. Not particular to Israelis of course but common in all fundamentalist religion and most movements which, by their nature and their necessity incline to cult form.
Most people aren't intelligent, it's us overthinkers who are the aberration. Mass stupidity is possible without intermarriage. I grew up during Apartheid with the luxury of not having been an adult during it.
Yes, agree but I did not mean mass stupidity. The way people look and talk can indicate lower intelligence and that is what I was noting. As they say, demonstrating 'they are not the sharpest knife in the block.'
Then again I imagine any cult environment can do that.
We are doomed to misunderstand each other. Must be astrological :)
I was just pointing out that mass stupidity is my main concern, bigger than the fact that religious groups will have less diversity than atheists.
Several Jewish comedies are among my favourites, likely assisted by the claustrophobia of their community e.g., 'Shiva Baby' and 'The Women's Balcony'.
The medium is cryptic and misunderstandings are a given. However, I am quite literal in my approach and perhaps you are also. I don't think we misunderstand each other as much as over-think as you said at one point.
I understood what you were saying and was simply clarifying how I saw it. I see it as conversation and exploring an issue. And it might be astrological although my sense, could be wrong, was that you were having a bit of a jibe given your response to my mention of astrology in the past.
I have done a lot of research into Judaism and particularly Kabbalah. I have no aversion to things Jewish at all. Humour is a very particular thing and I can't say I relate particularly to Jewish humour as it always seems very contrived and not as sharp-witted as the best humour. More slapstick than savage wit.
As to mass stupidity, I would see it more as collective psychosis, a version of mass hysteria. Are we dumbed down in this age? Now that is another very complex topic.
Sometimes literal, sometimes taking the mickey. Or the internet is PERFECT and its we who are the problem - ha ha.
Watch those comedy recommendations.
You need a humour or satire emoji. Unless made very clear, humour rarely translates on this medium.
Will do.;
I loved the women in the hair salon. You will too. Us 'commoners' make for better government.
I found the first film really interesting. What a reality to grow up in a settlement in Israel.
A valuable documentary, helpful when someone goes inside rather than making a documentary about an exterior opinion.