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Angelina's avatar

Thanks, Mike for posting. I used to listen to Gonzalo Lira's "Round Tables." He was saying what most of us who knew the truth about the war in Ukraine were/are saying, but Gonzalo dared to say it from Kharkiv, Ukraine. It breaks my heart, because my alma mater is in Kharkiv and I adored the city, and still can't wrap my mind around that Kharkiv is in ruins, and it's a hotbed of the Nazis, and I can't hear from my old friends, who might still be there, or they might be dead by now... What a horrible tragedy for the people and the city. I pray God curses Nuland & ilk to burn in hell for eternity for what they did to Gonzalo, Kharkiv and Ukraine.

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Mike Hampton's avatar

Fact is that the "crazies" were right, and all the propagandists can do is create new propaganda to cover up their failed propaganda.

Not from war, but from politics, I know what its like to lose the place I loved. My empathy is with you.

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Hachemi Hadjoudj's avatar

There are, clearly, the “good” US citizens, on one side, and the bad ones, those that we hasten to forget like… Rachel Corrie, Gonzalo Lira, Shyrin Abu Akleh… and, whether they are placed in one category or another depends on whether they are declared “friends or foes” and on those who perpetrated the crime, in this case the IDF or the madmen of kyiv.

There are therefore, clearly, several categories of American citizenship. The US “Untouchables” are unworthy of the attention and protection normally due to all US citizens!

Let it be said!…

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Mike Hampton's avatar

I'm imagining Nuland thinking that, "People such as Edward Snowden and Gonzalo Lira cannot be both citizen of America and citizen of Empire. They have to choose, respectively, between no rights and rights."

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Val D. Phillips's avatar

Horrific. And typical for the Biden Administration. You have freedom of speech unless you say something we don't agree with. Nuland is a piece of work. March 5th can't come soon enough.

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Mike Hampton's avatar

Jan 20? March 5?

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Val D. Phillips's avatar

Nuland resigns effective March 5th. January 20th begins a new era best described by the curse, "May you live in interesting times."

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Mike Hampton's avatar

Aha. I wasn't multitasking well, responding to comments after going on to other topics. She resigned March 5 2024. Joined the CIA's NED PR company in September - https://www.ned.org/ned-welcomes-victoria-nuland-to-the-board-of-directors/

Your Jan 20 comment perfect. Welcome to our Cynical Club.

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Val D. Phillips's avatar

Ha. Guess you weren't the only one having trouble with multitasking.

Is that being cynical? I thought just realistic. Happy Solstice. Hope your day was nice and long, but not hot.

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Mike Hampton's avatar

Hot with extra hot on the side and top.

Cynicism is realism.

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