The Zionists were and are fanatics, power-driven fascists but their exploitation of Judaism and Jews requires participation on the part of the religion and its followers. And yes, some Jews always resisted Zionism and the literalisation of a fairytale Israel but most did not. Either they are particularly stupid people who follow Judaism, or mentally dysfunctional in some way.
Anyone with half a brain knows that planning to set up your own racist religious state in someone else's country where most of the natives are Muslim and many are Christian is never going to be a good idea.
It seemed like a good idea at the time does not even apply to Zionists, Jews and Israel because it was always a bad idea and an even worse reality.
"Anyone with half a brain knows that planning to set up your own racist religious state in someone else's country where most of the natives are Muslim and many are Christian is never going to be a good idea. " - that is truism!
Generalisation is appropriate i.e. most humans are stupid. A self-righteous mob has the potential to exist everywhere. It's just emphasised when they're given guns and automatically forgiven for killing by the people who gave them the guns.
My thoughts were more to the origin of Zionism and how they hurt Jews. If I recall, you wrote a good article about that. Please remind me by sharing the link here.
The Balfour letter held a lukewarm reminder that , oh by the way, pay attention to the rights and religious preferences of the native Palestinians who have occupied your “Jewish state” for a thousand plus years. But don’t go too hard on them. Notice that the letter did not mention the need for tolerance and understanding for your rather sudden intrusion into a peaceful, harmonious, and cooperative population!
Andy, I’m going to erect a tent in your backyard with one sign saying ‘Mike’s Land’ and another saying ‘There’s No God’. There’s nothing you can do about it because the army of Zimbabwe said it’s a legit move, and they’ve given me AK-47s as proof.
Well, from what I have read the British and co., had no illusions about the thuggery of the Zionists and the UN recommendation giving 78% of Palestine to them, was based on the hope that the Zionists would slow down their slaughter and greed. It did not work of course and was never going to work. All playing games with the lives and lands of others.
Well the Shitraelis have been bombing Syria for a very long time. A forgotten war in many respects. With their failure in Lebanon they are now looking to close off the Syrian option for weapons to reach Lebanon from elsewhere, or so the military experts say. Probably they just want to keep killing and the Syrians are an easy target.
The picture reminds me of Lewis Carroll's What the Tortoise Said to Achilles https://www.ditext.com/carroll/tortoise.html ... (apologies, I know that is off-topic) ... and thanks for posting the Balfour declaration, this is the first time I actually read it.
"We want only the best of Jewish youth to come to us…only the educated to enter,.......the other Jews will have to stay where they are and face whatever fate awaits them. These millions of Jews are dust on the wheels of history and they may have to be blown away. We don’t want them pouring into Palestine. We don’t want Tel Aviv to become another low-grade ghetto.” Quote by Israel's future president Chaim Weizmann at the World Zionist conference in Zurich Switzerland 1937.
When Hitler took power, Jewish communities around the world worked to establish a boycott of German products. Zionists proposed a deal that the Nazi's agreed to in allowing a select number of rich and upper class Jews to emigrate to Palestine From 1933-1939, 60,000 German Jews left Germany for Palestine and this effectively also destroyed the Jewish proposed boycott of German goods. Hannah Arendt wrote "“anti-Semitism was an overwhelming force, and the Jews would either have to make use of it or be swallowed up by it. In expert hands [such as David Ben-Gurion & Co.] this ‘propelling force’…would be used in the same way that boiling water is used to produce steam power.” Zionism literally embraced Germany's attacks against Jews to promote the emigration of Jews to Palestine which had been failing miserably. Saving European Jews was not the Zionist priority and they attacked any Jewish group worldwide that was trying to save European Jews from the Nazi's.
On November 25,1940, the S.S. Patria was blown up by a Zionist terrorist group and killed 276 illegal Jewish immigrants at the port of Haifa. The British were not going to allow the disembarkment of the illegal Jewish immigrants in Palestine. The Zionists wanted to show the British that Jews cannot be restrained from entering their "country".
Zionist agents under the direction of the Mossad conducted a false flag terror campaign consisting of bombings of synagogue's and violence against Jewish neighborhoods in Arab countries in the early 1950's to force Jews in very established communities to flee to Palestine. Hundreds of thousands Arab Jews to fled to Israel and to the racism of European Jews. Yemen's Jewish refugees suffered an even greater horrific problem. Almost 5,000 Jewish babies, most of them Yemen Jewish babies. were kidnapped by Israeli authorities for medical testing. Nothing is known of what did become of those babies. Rumors still persist that they were used for illegal adoptions and trafficking.
Thanks for adding that, and I hope my readers are reminded of the origin story.
Sam Husseini wrote a good article called 'Israel's Sacred Terrorism' for which the subheader is "Israel invented air hijacking in 1954." - https://husseini.substack.com/cp/149124524
The insanity of this idea that Jews have a right to Palestine because some lived there thousands of years ago is impressive in its idiocy and irrational support.
Christians ruled Istanbul and much of Turkey for more than a thousand years but have no right to it.
Muslims ruled India for 600 years, most of Spain and a lot of Europe but cannot claim it.
And when Jews arrived in the first place they were colonists. Judaism was invented in what is now Iraq so they were never native to Palestine in the first place.
And since there is virtually no evidence for most of the Judaic claims of this or that kingdom thousands of years ago, in Palestine, it is even sillier. The Egyptians did carve in stone, hieroglyphs, when a tribe called Judah rocked up in Palestine 3000 years ago. Palestine was ancient when Judaism was invented. But that tribe was one among many primitive tribal kingdoms pitching their tents in Palestine.
The Greeks, a people not a religion, founded Barcelona, Istanbul and Alexandria but have no claims on it. Followers of Minerva founded London and if they re-invented themselves would have no claim on it.
So much blood and suffering in the name of a fairy tale...
Absolutely. First para states "Zionism". Rothschild family was involved in sending Jews to Israel and has had a foundation there supporting the government. When Jacob Rothschild died this year, Netanhayu honoured him. I should post that on Notes.
The Zionists were and are fanatics, power-driven fascists but their exploitation of Judaism and Jews requires participation on the part of the religion and its followers. And yes, some Jews always resisted Zionism and the literalisation of a fairytale Israel but most did not. Either they are particularly stupid people who follow Judaism, or mentally dysfunctional in some way.
Anyone with half a brain knows that planning to set up your own racist religious state in someone else's country where most of the natives are Muslim and many are Christian is never going to be a good idea.
It seemed like a good idea at the time does not even apply to Zionists, Jews and Israel because it was always a bad idea and an even worse reality.
"Anyone with half a brain knows that planning to set up your own racist religious state in someone else's country where most of the natives are Muslim and many are Christian is never going to be a good idea. " - that is truism!
Generalisation is appropriate i.e. most humans are stupid. A self-righteous mob has the potential to exist everywhere. It's just emphasised when they're given guns and automatically forgiven for killing by the people who gave them the guns.
My thoughts were more to the origin of Zionism and how they hurt Jews. If I recall, you wrote a good article about that. Please remind me by sharing the link here.
Not sure it was me. But yes, the Zionists attacked Jews who did not support Zionism and also murdered them. They did that in Palestine and elsewhere.
The Balfour letter held a lukewarm reminder that , oh by the way, pay attention to the rights and religious preferences of the native Palestinians who have occupied your “Jewish state” for a thousand plus years. But don’t go too hard on them. Notice that the letter did not mention the need for tolerance and understanding for your rather sudden intrusion into a peaceful, harmonious, and cooperative population!
Andy, I’m going to erect a tent in your backyard with one sign saying ‘Mike’s Land’ and another saying ‘There’s No God’. There’s nothing you can do about it because the army of Zimbabwe said it’s a legit move, and they’ve given me AK-47s as proof.
Well, from what I have read the British and co., had no illusions about the thuggery of the Zionists and the UN recommendation giving 78% of Palestine to them, was based on the hope that the Zionists would slow down their slaughter and greed. It did not work of course and was never going to work. All playing games with the lives and lands of others.
And now Syria…
Well the Shitraelis have been bombing Syria for a very long time. A forgotten war in many respects. With their failure in Lebanon they are now looking to close off the Syrian option for weapons to reach Lebanon from elsewhere, or so the military experts say. Probably they just want to keep killing and the Syrians are an easy target.
Or its another front in the bigger war.
Well the shitraeli goal is Iran so no doubt.
The picture reminds me of Lewis Carroll's What the Tortoise Said to Achilles https://www.ditext.com/carroll/tortoise.html ... (apologies, I know that is off-topic) ... and thanks for posting the Balfour declaration, this is the first time I actually read it.
Jabberwocky that teaches. Though I'm radically converting Achilles into the Brits and thinking that A-Kill-Ease taught us what they didn't do.
More on topic, just listening to Ayelet & Elik's Anti-War Songs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2yON4O9J4w
Forgive me, as time was short, but I listened to 10 minutes. It's always important to example Jews standing against the Zionists.
"We want only the best of Jewish youth to come to us…only the educated to enter,.......the other Jews will have to stay where they are and face whatever fate awaits them. These millions of Jews are dust on the wheels of history and they may have to be blown away. We don’t want them pouring into Palestine. We don’t want Tel Aviv to become another low-grade ghetto.” Quote by Israel's future president Chaim Weizmann at the World Zionist conference in Zurich Switzerland 1937.
When Hitler took power, Jewish communities around the world worked to establish a boycott of German products. Zionists proposed a deal that the Nazi's agreed to in allowing a select number of rich and upper class Jews to emigrate to Palestine From 1933-1939, 60,000 German Jews left Germany for Palestine and this effectively also destroyed the Jewish proposed boycott of German goods. Hannah Arendt wrote "“anti-Semitism was an overwhelming force, and the Jews would either have to make use of it or be swallowed up by it. In expert hands [such as David Ben-Gurion & Co.] this ‘propelling force’…would be used in the same way that boiling water is used to produce steam power.” Zionism literally embraced Germany's attacks against Jews to promote the emigration of Jews to Palestine which had been failing miserably. Saving European Jews was not the Zionist priority and they attacked any Jewish group worldwide that was trying to save European Jews from the Nazi's.
On November 25,1940, the S.S. Patria was blown up by a Zionist terrorist group and killed 276 illegal Jewish immigrants at the port of Haifa. The British were not going to allow the disembarkment of the illegal Jewish immigrants in Palestine. The Zionists wanted to show the British that Jews cannot be restrained from entering their "country".
Zionist agents under the direction of the Mossad conducted a false flag terror campaign consisting of bombings of synagogue's and violence against Jewish neighborhoods in Arab countries in the early 1950's to force Jews in very established communities to flee to Palestine. Hundreds of thousands Arab Jews to fled to Israel and to the racism of European Jews. Yemen's Jewish refugees suffered an even greater horrific problem. Almost 5,000 Jewish babies, most of them Yemen Jewish babies. were kidnapped by Israeli authorities for medical testing. Nothing is known of what did become of those babies. Rumors still persist that they were used for illegal adoptions and trafficking.
Thanks for adding that, and I hope my readers are reminded of the origin story.
Sam Husseini wrote a good article called 'Israel's Sacred Terrorism' for which the subheader is "Israel invented air hijacking in 1954." - https://husseini.substack.com/cp/149124524
The insanity of this idea that Jews have a right to Palestine because some lived there thousands of years ago is impressive in its idiocy and irrational support.
Christians ruled Istanbul and much of Turkey for more than a thousand years but have no right to it.
Muslims ruled India for 600 years, most of Spain and a lot of Europe but cannot claim it.
And when Jews arrived in the first place they were colonists. Judaism was invented in what is now Iraq so they were never native to Palestine in the first place.
And since there is virtually no evidence for most of the Judaic claims of this or that kingdom thousands of years ago, in Palestine, it is even sillier. The Egyptians did carve in stone, hieroglyphs, when a tribe called Judah rocked up in Palestine 3000 years ago. Palestine was ancient when Judaism was invented. But that tribe was one among many primitive tribal kingdoms pitching their tents in Palestine.
The Greeks, a people not a religion, founded Barcelona, Istanbul and Alexandria but have no claims on it. Followers of Minerva founded London and if they re-invented themselves would have no claim on it.
So much blood and suffering in the name of a fairy tale...
When you write great comments, you should double them as Notes.
How do I know it is great? Smiley face.
Thanks for the tip on Notes.
Some researchers identify Christian Zionism behind the Balfour Declaration of 1917.
Lawrence Davidson (for example)...
Quote:
"It allows the West to perceive the universalization of its culture — its manifest destiny — as a pursuit, in Arthur Balfour’s words, of ‘the general
welfare of mankind. Ipso facto, imperialism becomes altruistic"
Source:
Christian Zionism as a Representation of American Manifest Destiny (2010)
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10669920500135538
Absolutely. First para states "Zionism". Rothschild family was involved in sending Jews to Israel and has had a foundation there supporting the government. When Jacob Rothschild died this year, Netanhayu honoured him. I should post that on Notes.